Financial instability has taken a toll on mental health by making individuals feel trapped and unmotivated. These damaging thoughts can be mitigated by establishing a firm purpose for the activities in which you partake and fantasizing about redemptive possibilities while always maintaining awareness of worst case scenarios.
Ryan Morfin: Welcome to NON-BETA ALPHA, I’m Ryan Morfin. On today’s episode, we have Dr. David Henderson, artist, psychiatrist, and lecturer, talking to us about mental resiliency during the COVID crisis and how it’s impacted his artwork. This is NON-BETA ALPHA.
Dr. Henderson, thank you for joining us, appreciate you being on the show today.
Dr. David Hende…: Absolutely, glad to be here.
Ryan Morfin: Well, I wanted to pick your brain, your one of our Artists in Residence at Wentworth, and wanted to talk a little bit about some of the projects that you’ve been working on since we last got together. And then also, maybe touch on a little bit about the mental health implications of sheltering in place and the pandemic. And then, maybe at the end we could talk a little bit about how organizations and leaders can improve the mental resiliency of their team and themselves. So we appreciate you coming on to talk about these critical issues.
Dr. David Hende…: Yes, absolutely. It’s been an interesting experience for me. I’m wearing a bunch of different hats right now, so getting to observe the whole COVID-19 situation from a number of different perspectives. It’s been quite fascinating, actually.
Ryan Morfin: Well, for those of the viewers that haven’t met you yet, you do a lot of really interesting art. Maybe you can talk a little bit about your background professionally, and then a little bit about your art career as well, and talk about some of the projects you’re working on.
Dr. David Hende…: Sure. I’m a MD by education, I’m a psychiatrist by profession, and I tell folks I’m an artist by compulsion. Art is my outlet to express all of the things that I can’t really express in my professional roles. I’ve been the chief medical officer for a couple different facilities, the most recent of which is with an organization called Addiction Campuses. We have a facility here in Texas, that has 160 beds, and we work with folks that deal with drug and alcohol addiction, as well as mental health issues in general. So I’ve been overseeing that facility, and that’s my day job.
Then, I also have two other projects related to the art world, one of which is a new solo art exhibition that we have slated for October of this year. Again, everything’s up in the air, we can get into that a little bit, but we’re planning to move forward with this. We’ve had to come up with plan Bs, in the event that we can’t have an actual live event.
Then, I also just launched a film series, called Psyched 31. It’s a series of short films, 31 of them. And the idea is that participants who join would watch one film a day, and then there’s a supplemental journal associated with the series. You watch one film a day for 31 days, and it acts as a mental cleanse. It’s based on my 15 years as a psychiatrist, and also some of my own personal challenges and triumphs that I’ve faced in life. I’m really excited to be able to launch this, because I think it’s going to help a lot of people.
Two years ago when I started the project, I never imagined that we’d be dealing with a worldwide pandemic. And yet, I have a belief that things work out for a reason, and I think a lot of people are struggling mentally and emotionally now, and now is the time to refocus, center yourself, and really develop a mindset that’s going to allow for the toughness that’s necessary to survive a lot of the challenges that we’re facing today.
Ryan Morfin: Again, that’s psyched31.com. So maybe just take us a little bit deeper into the types of content you explore, so people can go to there and request a login credential?
Dr. David Hende…: Sure. There’s two ways to access it. One is that when you go to the site, psyched31.com, you can register, and you’ll be immediately registered for the films. Then, we’ll also mail you the supplemental journal, there’s a bunch of prompt questions that help you work your way through the cleanse, and then documenting. I’m a firm believer in documenting your thoughts, so you can work your way through the series.
We deal with all sorts of issues, like betrayal. A lot of people who are in business face situations where they set out to accomplish something with certain people in their life, that they imagine are going to stick with them through the whole process, and a lot of people end up bailing, or even betraying. So how do you deal with that?
We talk about our own faults and failures in the series, and how do you manage and navigate when you set out in a certain direction and you failed yourself. We address the obstacles, the common obstacles that people face in the process of getting to their hopes and dreams, to their goals in life. So a lot of it is based around the psychology of the mind, and what are the challenges starting from the beginning of inception of an idea, all the way to its completion.
One of the things that’s been really hard is when you start project, and in my case when you actually finish a project, no one will ever understand the work, and the stress, and the pain that has gone into producing it. One of the issues that we address in the film is the idea of releasing your work, and the tasks that you’ve done, in terms of building bridges for others to cross, essentially free of charge, the chasm that basically almost took your life.
A lot of folks in business experience that. They’ve built a business, they’ve built a company, it’s their baby, it’s been birthed from within them. And then, people take advantage of that, or they don’t appreciate, or they don’t understand all the blood, sweat, and tears. So how do you deal with that psychologically, mentally, emotionally?
Those are just some examples of the 31 different issues that we address in the series.
Ryan Morfin: Well, that is some really interesting content for a lot of our viewers, because a lot of them are self-made, and have built their businesses, and their books, and a lot of sacrifices go into a building a business. That time away from family, time away from hobbies, and friends. Yeah, I think that’s fascinating content. Well, we’ll be sure to push that along to a lot of our advisors and friends of the firm. I know you’ve been working on it for a while, so looking forward to jumping in.
How has the Coronavirus changed your outlook on your art? Or, how has it impacted your ability to produce art?
Dr. David Hende…: Well for me, the production of art is, as I said, it’s a compulsion, and it’s a drive within me. I think it’s something that I would do whether I was making money from it or not. So that’s what I’m seeing with the COVID-19 situation, is that those who have a passion, those that have a drive for something that they truly believe in, this is not going to stop them. They will find a way, whether it’s over, under, or around this whole situation, to success because there’s an inherent drive embedded within them.
So that’s my first challenge to those in the business world, because if you don’t know where that drive is coming from, if you don’t have a sense of what’s pushing you forward in life, then you’re going to flounder. The moment you come up, and butt up against a challenge, it’s going to take over, it’s going to destroy you. So the first thing you’ve got to do is figure out what your drive and your passion is.
For me, as a professional, and as a physician, I take in a lot of people’s pain and suffering, and I have to be professional, and I don’t share much about myself in those appointments, in those meetings because the focus is on them. So this outlet of art, and producing the art, for me, is a true release, and I have to do it. I’ve found this way of creating art where I can speak of a message, but do so in somewhat of a hidden, masked kind of way. A lot of the pieces that I paint are very representative of stories that I’ve heard, and the stories that I could never disclose. But, I can put them out there in the art, know that I’ve expressed myself, and the person that’s observing it, the collector, gets a chance to put their own story into it and I can still maintain the anonymity of those stories that really have been the basis of that art. For me, it’s a driving force.
Now, with COVID itself, I have just been fascinated by the reality of the fragility of the human mind. You know, we think of ourselves as such an advanced society, but when a virus like this takes over, we suddenly collapse, mentally and emotionally. In my artwork, even prior to COVID occurring, that was the theme of my work. If you notice in the pieces, there’s a lot of chaos in the lines, the paint is all over the place, but a lot of the characters in the art are wearing formal uniforms from the 17th and 18th Century. So it’s the outward display of formality and decorum that we try to present to the world, juxtapositioned with the internal chaos that we feel, a lot of times when we’re stressed, when we’re overwhelmed.
With COVID, there’s two types of people that have really separated themselves, and drifted to separate poles. One is the group of individuals that are scared to death about safety, or the lack of safety in their lives. The most obvious is the fear of death, the fear of getting sick. So there’s this one group of people that are all about shutting everything down, saving lives, preventing this catastrophe from impacting people’s safety.
The other group of individuals is on the other pole, and those are the individuals that are scared to death of losing control. They see the economy collapsing, and they see the people frantically scrambling to the grocery stores to get all sorts of supplies, and they’re wracking their brains trying to understand. Why are we limiting ourselves? Why am I being limited from being able to run my business, to do my job, and the things that I need to do?
So you’ve got these two polar extremes, which are ultimately, now, warring against each other. I think if we can recognize that dichotomy, and put ourselves somewhere in that spectrum, we can gain a lot of insight about our own character, our own personality style, and what we need to do to stay safe and healthy, mentally and emotionally, during this very difficult time.
Ryan Morfin: No, that’s a good spectrum for people to start to think about, their actions as well as how they’re handling the stress of uncertainty.
I love your artwork, we have some in our headquarters building. I tell people it’s where Freud meets Picasso, and I think it’s a great way to remain HIPAA compliant, but also tell some interesting stories through art, and some beautiful pieces. We’ll show some of those while you’re talking, through the rest of this interview.
What’s the name of your website that people can go to, if they want to review your art?
Dr. David Hende…: Sure. The art website is simply henderson.art. Henderson.art, and you can check out the website. If there’s a particular piece that speaks to someone, they can click on the inquire button, it’ll send me a message and we can set up a time to talk. Yeah, that’s been really exciting, to have the ability to interact with people on platform where a message is conveyed, but done so in a way that’s very sensitive, and still maintaining the confidentiality of my clients.
Of course, obviously what I paint and what I do is also a reflection of me, and my own personal struggles and challenges, which have been many. But, I think the art has given me an opportunity and an outlet to be able to vent all of those things, and also keep me going in other areas of my life professionally. It’s been extremely rewarding.
Ryan Morfin: Well, we’ll make sure we do a hyperlink and post that on our site so people, if they want to check it out, it’ll be right below the video and they can click through. We’ll make sure we send out a nice update for all the folks who’ve met you in our organization, I think they’d love to stay in touch.
Well, I’d love to check your thoughts on the mental health impact to people. A great quote I heard recently is, “It’s okay to not be okay.” I want to hear about what you’re seeing in the mental health profession, about the impact to humans, we’re social animals. What’s happening out there? No one’s really talking about it, but the negative externalities of these pandemic shelter in place policies.
Dr. David Hende…: Sure. Well, it’s been an extremely stressful time. What I’ve noticed, both in the professional world and the art world, is that a lot of the businesses that are considered non-essential have suffered tremendously. The entertainment world, the art world, the music industry are suffering drastically because they’re outlets, number one, for being to show and demonstrate what they do has been completely removed, number one. And number two, people aren’t buying art, people aren’t doing as much in terms of entertainment, and the food industry, and all these things. So people are shutting down, and there’s a tremendous fear about whether or not we can survive.
But then, even if you take a step back to some of the essential businesses, there’s a ripple effect throughout. I just read a study recently that even physicians in private practice, their income has dropped by I think it was 60%, and there are many small private practice physicians that are having to close their doors.
So this is impacting everyone, and I think the most challenging thing for people is one, the fear of loss of financial stability. And that lost of financial stability creates a sense of being trapped, of being unable to do the things that they’re passionate about, and ultimately provide for their family. So it goes all the way back to very core issues surrounding life. So when I work with clients, I try to address what are the four major existential crises that people tend to face. And when they come to a crossroad in life, or they face an ultimately challenge, these are the four issues that tend to crop up.
One is a sense of isolation, that is that I’m the only one who’s experiencing this, no one else can understand my circumstances, and therefore no one else can help me through this. There are a lot of small business owners who are in that state of isolation, very fearful that there’s nowhere to turn for help. The truth is that there is, but that fear can overwhelm us and cloud that reality.
Number two, the issue of meaninglessness. What’s the point? I’ve worked so hard to produce X, Y, or Z, and this Coronavirus is going to completely destroy that. What happens is that leads to a state of despair, which then impacts your ability to be creative, maneuverable, navigate around the challenges, and you end up shutting down mentally and emotionally, and you self-sabotage.
Number three is the issue of freedom. Now, in the United States, we look at freedom as a right or a privilege, but the truth is that it’s a burden to an existentialist, because the more choices that you have at your disposal, the more likely you are to feel paralyzed in making that decision. Because it’s like, “What do I do, what do I choose? I don’t know.” If you only have two options at your disposal, it’s a little bit easier to decided. But, if you’ve got an infinite number of choices, then you have an infinite amount of responsibility.
Then, once you’ve made a choice, there’s the potential for you to experience buyer’s regret. “Oh man, I’ve made this choice, and now there’s some challenges associated with it. What if I had done X, or Y, or Z, or something else?” You start feeling that regret.
Then, the very last existential crisis is the issue we’ve got … We’ve got isolation, we’ve got meaninglessness, we’ve got freedom. And then, ultimately, death. Now, when I talk about death, I don’t necessarily mean physical death, but I mean some loss of our identity, something that has made us feel of value or significance, and when that is lost we feel this existential angst. A lot of people are losing a lot of things, and many of them are material in nature. Those who psychologically remain strong, and recognize their value and their worth as a person, as a human, will get through this trial and this crisis. It’s those that are seeing everything falling apart around them that get most overwhelmed.
So when I’m talking to business professionals, and I talk to many in my private practice, I do a lot of corporate consulting, these are the four issues that are cropping up. And then, once we’ve identified those over-arching issues, we can start teasing out the specifics of them as they relate to the individual.
Ryan Morfin: So Dr., as we’re all watching the news in real time, and watching the way the media is handling this crisis, it’s making a lot of people worried. Whether they take it as a form of psychological warfare, being manipulated by misinformation that’s out there, or this obsessive compulsive nature of just wanting to be focused on the death toll.
Could you talk a little bit about this frenzy, as you call it, and what it’s doing to our country’s mental psyche?
Dr. David Hende…: Yeah, absolutely. I’ll liken it to a story that I heard, a while back.
The truth is that this isn’t just psychological, this is physiological. A human brain, when it’s starving, starts to shut down it’s higher executive thinking first. So we’ve seen this in situations with shipwrecks, okay? Back in the early 1900s, there was a shipwreck, and there were a group of men that were on this life raft. Or, lifeboat, actually, a wooden boat. As time went on, the more they started to starve, their executive decision making parts of their brain began to shut down, and the deeper, more animalistic parts of the brain started to kick in.
That’s when you see things like cannibalism start to take place, and people start doing things that they never imagined that they would do otherwise. Why? Because the drive to survive is so strong, and you can liken that to what is happening in our country now.We are under a tremendous amount of stress mentally and emotionally, and we are starting to see people’s executive reasoning skills start shutting down, and the fight or flight responses kicking up. People are starting to do things that you never would have imagined they would do.
The problem is that the media becomes like the sharks, circling the boat. They’re just waiting for the blood, and they see it, and they sense it. The media today is not about reporting facts, people need to understand that. Yes, they do report facts, but the media as we see it today is about ratings, and about telling good stories. And man, is Coronavirus a great story to tell. If they can feed off of the emotions that we are experiencing as a society, they keep their ratings up, they keep their focus going for their mission in life. The problem is that we’ve got tons of people sitting in that life raft, slowly but surely deteriorating, as a result of some very real issues and problems, and we’ve got the media feeding into that fear, and creating absolute panic.
[inaudible 00:22:55] pandemic of COVID-19, it’s absolutely something we should take seriously. But more seriously, we need to take this pandemic of fear, and recognize that the true heroes in society are going to be the ones that maintain a resolve that stay focused on the mission of their lives, and they stop letting the frantic nature of everything that’s happening around them rob them of the possibilities and the potential that they can see happen in their lives. So there is a tremendous opportunity to use these circumstances, and create power from these circumstances.
The real question is going to be, who are the heroes that are going to use it for good, and use it for advancing our society, and our mission as a country, and as a nation. That’s what I’m excited to see.
Ryan Morfin: No, those are very heavy conversations, and very timely and relevant.
One of the existential issues facing people who were depressed prior to that is that I see an acceleration, whether it’s business model collapsing, or people’s mental health collapsing, there’s a lot of suicides going on right now, astronomical numbers of people calling in for suicide prevention. The question for you is as a business owner, and as a leader in an organization, what can we do not only to keep our mental health resilient, but how do we also coach or build up our team so that they’ve also got a stronger mental toughness?
Dr. David Hende…: Yeah, I think the one thing that people need to do during times like this is establish a firm foundation for why they’re doing what they’re doing. What I ask business professionals to do is think back, if you’re a business owner, what led you to start your company in the first place. What was the mission, what were you trying to accomplish? And reassess and evaluate that foundation, because if you were staring a business, you faced essentially all the challenges that you’re facing right now, maybe just in a different way, or different circumstances. But, you had a driving foundation that was pushing your forward. So you need to re-establish that, you need to get back to your base, to your roots.
If your goal in life was to make a ton of money, that may not have been a sustainable foundation to begin with. But, if your goal was to produce a product or a service that changed and improved people’s lives in some way, shape, or form, you can still do that today. You may need to scale back a bit, but you can still accomplish that, as you deal with the trials of COVID-19.
Number two, you have to fantasize about the redemptive possibilities that can come from the challenges that you’re facing. That word redemption, it sounds like a religious word but it’s actually an economic word. It’s the idea of taking something that is seemingly valueless and exchanging it for something of tremendous value. If I pull $100 bill out of my pocket and I hand it to you, you can essentially tear it up and throw it away because it’s just a piece of paper, there’s no inherent value in it. But, to exchange it for something of great worth, the government, the overarching powers that be have established a tradable, exchangeable value to that dollar.
You have to do the same for your life, and for the obstacles. The obstacles, in and of themselves, may seem meaningless, and have no value. But, you’ve got to be creative in looking for, and fantasizing about the possible value that could come from this. What is the worst case scenario, and what could be the redemptive value?
So, let’s say worse case scenario, your business goes under, you have to declare bankruptcy. You know how many successful people have had to declare bankruptcy? But, as a result of declaring bankruptcy, maybe it gives you the space and the opportunity to trigger another idea of something that you want to do or pursue, and it actually leads you in another direction, and what you produce as the result of that is 10X better than what you’re doing right now. The people that keep that mindset, and continue to keep believing in the redeem ability of the obstacles that they’re facing, those are the ones that succeed.
Now, I can give you a personal example from my own life. While I was filming Psyched 31, I had hired a production company. What the production company had promised me fell far short, they were taking a tremendous amount of time, what the product that they were producing was not up to my standards, and I essentially had to fire them. Well, what ended up happening in that process was it turned into a legal battle, because they were claiming that they had some sort of rights to my intellectual property, so we got tied up in all these legality, and I couldn’t continue to keep filming.
It was during that time that I met the producer for my art shows. He saw my artwork and he said, “We have to do something with this.” So while Psyched 31 was on hold, I did a ton of artwork. I did probably about 50 canvas works in the span of six months. It was that work that allowed me to produce my show, even make the connection with you guys at Wentworth. We put on the show, and the moment the show was over, everything in terms of the legal stuff with Psyched 31 cleared up, and we went back to filming.
Had that not happened, I may never have realized the passion for the art side of things that I now have. That is the kind of stuff that can happen when you face challenges, and you continue to fantasize and dream about the possibilities that can come from those obstacles. That’s what you need to do during COVID-19. Scale back, get to your foundation, understand what it is that you really want to do, and do it in a smaller way. But then, fantasize about the opportunities that maybe can come as you circumvent these different obstacles, and you will survive, you will succeed.
Ryan Morfin: Well, that’s great advice. We appreciate you sharing some of that insights. Would love to have people check out psyched31.com, and henderson.art. We own some artwork from the good doctor, and hope to buy some more, and hope our advisors check out his websites. And more importantly, check out Psyched 31, I think that’s something that lot of people never really think about is their mental health, and the resiliency. I think in times like this, Dr., I think what you’ve done is you’ve made on-demand content to really help people strengthen their mental resiliency, to thank you for doing that, and it couldn’t be more timely than today.
Dr. David Hende…: It’s so true, Ryan. Let me just say this, okay? If COVID has done anything, it has done this. It has allowed people to check themselves, mentally and emotionally. We have lived for so long, I think, in a state of complacency, where it comes to taking care of our own mental health.
You know what? Most of the clients that I’m seeing right now, COVID-19 has not phased them. Why? Because they’ve been dealing with stress, and anxiety, and depression long before COVID ever showed up. And they made the decision to get help, and to address their own mental and emotional issues, and they’re starting to look at the rest of society and realize, “I’m not so different than everybody else.”
Everybody is struggling, everybody is dealing with the anxiety and stress of this situation, and it’s forcing people to take care of the one thing that is their ultimate asset in life. It’s not their physical health, it’s not the physical body, it’s the mind. That’s what controls everything, and if you get that in check, you can face pretty much anything in life.
Ryan Morfin: Well, I think this great pause has forced a lot of people to re-evaluate, self-reflect, and spend more time with things that are really important, their families and their friends. I do think the great pause is going to have some really positive externalities, but yeah, I think people need to realize there’s a light at the end of tunnel, no matter how bad the economic situation gets.
I guess, real quick I’d ask you just two final questions. One is what are some silver linings you’re seeing, about this crisis? And then, two, what books are you reading right now, or what articles have you read, that have really shaped some of your thinking over the last few months?
Dr. David Hende…: Sure. Well, there’s a lot of silver linings. One is again, like I said, people are taking a step back, re-evaluating their focus. And then, they’re also recognizing they can survive with a lot less than what they imagined. When you face something that basically strips you down to your core, and your recognize you can survive it, it’s an incredible experience.
I had a great uncle who was one of the guys that drove the PT boats up onto the beaches of Normandy, and everybody in his boat was killed, and he survived. Years, years later, my dad was at his birthday party, it was his 75th birthday party. Somebody asked him, “You’ve always been so calm, cool, and collected. Why is that?” He said, “Well, when you face death in life and survived it, you recognize that you can face anything.” So that’s one of the silver linings.
The other silver lining is I’m seeing some business professionals being extremely creative in the way that they’re navigating in the business challenges, and revamping what they’re doing. It’s pretty exciting to see the innovation taking place, so that’s been really fun, to just be on the inside scoop of some of these new things coming down the pipeline in terms of business models.
You know, as far as articles and things that I’ve been reading, I made a commitment to myself that I would try, over this year, to read books that were 30 years or older because they had withstood the test of time. One of the books that I’m reading is a book called Catch 22, and it’s a fascinating book. It’s a commentary on war, but a lot of the meaninglessness of so much of what we do, and so much of what we desire from life. And for me, it’s been a tremendous check for myself, and I’ve enjoyed that process.
I love Dostoevsky, I love Hermann Hesse. I think in terms of some of these challenges of questioning our own existence and purpose for our lives, going back and reading some of these classic authors is absolutely essential. So I would strongly recommend that, to those of you who are watching this podcast, check out some of the oldies in terms of classic literature. You’ll realize we’re not facing anything new in society today, this has all been dealt with.
One book in particular by Albert Camus, is the book called The Plague. You should check it out, it’s all about an entire city that was quarantined. It’s certainly inspiring to read, so check out some of those really, really good resources.
Ryan Morfin: Fantastic. We’ll put those on our website so people can check them out. Dr., thank you so much for doing the show. We hope to see you in October at your next showing, and we’ll definitely check out psyched31.com. Thank you again.
Dr. David Hende…: Absolutely.
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